~ lifestyle ~ 2 years ago
Roe v. Wade leak: where to donate
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Anyone interested in the discrimination lawsuit filed by Nene Leakes against Bravo?


Nene Leakes filed a discrimination lawsuit against Bravo, NBC and Andy Cohen (among others) alleging a historical culture of discrimination that fosters racially offensive behavior that goes unpunished. She also alleges that she was unlawfully retaliated against for speaking up about racist behavior on RHOA. Although a discussion on this topic could go left, I do think it is interesting and important to point out some of the allegations in the Complaint.

I'm curious if anyone is interested in knowing more about the lawsuit? I did a deep dive into the 74 page complaint and there are a lot of thought provoking issues raised regarding disparate treatment, hostile work environment (remember, this is a job for these ladies) and potential retaliation.

I don't see a lot of discussion on it on social media so I thought I'd raise it here. I love this community and am wondering if people are interested. If so, let's discuss!

*Edited to add info!* (This information comes from the Complaint, not my opinions)

Here are some basic allegations that we (Bravoholics) already know:

- Lack of diversity among Bravo casts (Real Housewives and other series such as VPR, Southern Charm)

-Racially insensitive and inappropriate behavior is tolerated, if not encouraged

(See: Luanne as "Diana Ross", Luanne referring to Native Americans as "Indians" and doing a war whoop [gosh, these make me uncomfortable to even type], LeAnne Locken "the chirpy Mexican" comments, Brandi Redmond "squinty eyes" comments, Kameron Wescott and her behavior towards Tiffany Moon, and of course, Ramona Singer [no explanation needed])

Re: Ramona and her conduct towards Eboni K. Williams. Allegedly, on the episode where Luann kicked Eboni out of her home, Ramona said, "this is why we shouldn't have black people on the show." Reportedly, Eboni lodged an internal complaint re: Ramona's behavior, as did a crew member of RHONY (also alleging racially offensive comments by Ramona). Apparently, Heather Yummy Tummy Thompson has publicly stated she heard Ramona make that remark re: black people on the show. The lawsuit goes on to allege that instead of allowing these allegations to come to light, Bravo decided not to air the reunion and chose to sweep the issue under the rug by cancelling the reunion. Despite the allegations against Singer, Bravo/NBC continued to reward her by selecting her to be on RHUGT. "Tellingly, (Luann) was also given this same gig."

Re: Jennie Nguyen's firing: Bravo took no action against Jennie in real time, but rather attempted to silence her co-workers' public discussion of the racially inappropriate conduct. She alleges that Bravo tried to bury the issue rather than correct and remedy it.

A large portion of the Complaint involves the allegations of unlawful treatment of Nene while working on RHOA. Nene alleges that Kim repeatedly engaged in racially offensive behavior which was condoned, accepted and tolerated. Instead of subjecting her to appropriate remedial action, they rewarded her with special perks and privileges denied to the black housewives. Nene alleges that she and other housewives spoke up but nothing was done to stop it.

Re: "Roachgate" - when Nene called Kim out publicly, she was chastised (in writing) and told that it was not good for business and she needed to "take it off -line". Nene claimed she was retaliated against for complaining about Kim's racist behavior and Bravo attempted to silence her.

Bravo claimed they were sidelining her because they were concerned about her tax lien (which was paid without consequence other than late fee penalties). The Complaint goes on to show how other non-black housewives were allowed to do much worse without consequence. (See Teresa Guidice whose profile on Bravo rose after her legal issues and prison stint, including casting on RHUGT, Dorit Kemsley had a 925k tax lien, and of course Erika Jayne's alleged involvement with her husband's fraud)


When reading the Complaint, I legitimately forgot that this is a workplace for these women. I know they're filming a reality show, but they are entitled to the same workplace protections that you and I have. For whatever reason, I've never looked at these shows in that way. We are not privy to what goes on with production behind the scenes, but we all see that these Bravo shows have continuously lacked diversity and women like Ramona and Luann have gotten away with some pretty horrific behavior that would NEVER be tolerated in a traditional workplace. Now, I admittedly have not watched Atlanta religiously so I don't have much insight into Kim's behavior, but the allegations that she was treated better than her castmates and allowed special privileges (not filming at certain times, not traveling without her husband, etc.) despite racist behavior is shocking. I was also shocked to hear that Bravo used Nene's tax lien as justification for sidelining her (after she complained about Kim) when they've allowed so much worse from other white housewives.

I'm interested in other's thoughts. If you've read this far, it's time for glasses.

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~ just-curious ~ 2 years ago
Were you an "adult's child" and how did it shape you?

I'm just making that term up, but here's how I'd define it...

A kid that does a good job (and perhaps prefers) the company of adults. For ex. your parents have a BBQ and you don't get sent to a friend's house, instead, you mingle and talk about your life with adults who — in hindsight — didn't really care about your dance recital, but were so impressed by how well you were able to communicate with people older than you.

I definitely was — I think it was a big part of being an only child (and being the youngest in my entire extended family). I was pretty used to keeping up with the adults in the room and my parents always treated me like a peer. I had friends my own age, of course, and would spend time with them a lot doing normal kid things, but I wasn't afraid of being the first one up at a sleepover, hanging out with my best friend's mom in the kitchen for hours over chocolate iced donuts.

I was reading an interview with Jaden Smith (lol) who says growing up as Will and Jada's kid, he was an adult's child. He said, "I am very happy that I spent my childhood with more adults than I did with kids my own age, because I was picking up more things from adults than I was from kids my own age." He also said he'd respond to his peers w/ things like, "Dude, like, oh my God. Can we talk about the political and economic state of the world, right now ... Can we talk about what’s going on in the environment? Can we talk about other things?”

I would like to say, this is an insufferable Adult's Child. I do not claim him in the club of an Adult's Child.

To get to my real question... if you WERE an AC, how did it shape you? Putting my thoughts about how it shaped me in response! :)

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It Teresa's Time To Go?

The last season of Real Housewives of New York was one of the worst of all time, and so was Vanderpump Rules, which hasn't even been picked up for their next season. After these disappointing seasons, we all took to social media to give our two cents about how to fix them: who to fire, who to hire, and we hoped our voices would be heard.

As this season of Real Housewives of New Jersey comes to a close, it's time to reevaluate its standing, too. Ratings didn't struggle this season -- it did better than the other Housewives franchises currently on air -- but the show is starting to feel a little stale. A little repetitive. And we have to talk about it.

We can't have one person control the entire show, we can't have one person ice out the entire cast and make it hard to move on. And that person we can't have anymore is Teresa.

So my two cents: let's give Tre her own spinoff with her girls, kind of like what they did with Kim and Kroy. First the wedding special, then the show. And let the other RHONJ girls rebuild without her.

We can't have another season of the same fights over and over again. I just feel something has to be done, even though it might be hard to envision a show without Teresa, it's necessary.

What do you think: should Teresa stay or go?

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~ summer-house ~over 2 years ago
I don't think Amanda did anything wrong with Lindsay

A lot of people are talking about Amanda slut-shaming Lindsay at the vineyard for flirting and hooking up with people, all while trying to cover up for "something else." (Presumably LH's miscarriage.) Lindsay says she always dives into the deep end no matter what and has always done that, so she wasn't "covering up" for anything else. It's clear Lindsay isn't putting the pieces together that Amanda is maybe referring to a very recent (and traumatic) experience Lindsay has opened up about to the cast. She's also very defensive because of Paige and Ciara, and not really listening to Amanda. (I also think Amanda means overcompensating, and just used the wrong word... they're all DRUNK keep in mind.)

Lindsay then gets into it with Paige and Ciara, who are definitely coming from a much more attacking-POV than Amanda was (Amanda at this point has left the table crying because she wasn't being understood and emotions were escalating). This just amps up LH.

There has been a lot of conversation about how Amanda shouldn't have brought up Lindsay's miscarriage at all while the two were talking privately. I think she was trying to get Lindsay to realize she was talking about Real Things and not Surface/Show Things. For that, I think what Amanda said was OK! Lindsay has opened up to her about it, Amanda was referencing it. (And as someone not in Lindsay's situation, I can't help but wonder the same thing Amanda was wondering!)

To me, it's clear, Amanda is coming from a good place. (A drunk, but good place.) Paige, no. Paige was definitely being a hater, esp with that therapist line — and I think that helps highlight how Amanda meant everything with the best intentions.

Amanda's intention was to ask her friend if she was OK. Should she have originally done it more privately, probably. Especially with the messiness of Lindsay/Paige/Ciara/Danielle dynamics. But do I think she was WRONG? No. I really don't think she did anything wrong.

What do you think?

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