Anyone watching the season finale/crossover with L&O: OC ? I have THOUGHTS and also 😭

Between that and “dude,” Sandoval truly exposed his tell. I wonder when else he uses “dude” throughout the series…

With Schwartz constantly screwing up the timeline (he knew for a month, then since January, now since August) and all the sketchy behavior over the last couple years (Sandoval paying for the engagement), I feel like the affair started long before they’re admitting to it.

The best theory I’ve seen revolves around Rachel’s hair — in season 8, both started working Sur shifts together, and one season later, she’s cut her hair to a length we know Sandoval is obsessed with (see: Ariana’s previous o comments about her short hair). I’m betting an emotional affair started somewhere between Season 8 and 9, with the real affair starting in Season 9. I just don’t believe Rachel would suddenly dump James without a reason in the back of her head.

It seems like Rachel and Oliver made out in September, 2022, which was when Rachel was already seeing Sandoval. Do we think she got the green-light from Sandoval in order to throw people off their scent??

This whole thing is diabolical.

While I'm here, I would like to say that my favorite small detail from all the sordid information is that Sandoval isn't 39, he's 41 (according to both Danny Pellegrino and Doute). The narcissism is amazing.

Thoughts? On the one hand, I think it's possible — when you're the common enemy, it's pretty hard not to attach yourselves to one another, especially since the relationship is the whole reason why your friendships fell apart. But, still, I can't see Sandy actually staying put once the intrigue of the secretive relationship is done. Plus, once a cheater, always a cheater, clearly.

What are we thinking?!? I’m only 2 episodes in but it seems like the vibes are different this season. Like it seems more competitive and harsher in the living quarters (are Micah and Irina mean girls cause it’s coming off like that?!)

Honestly, I didn’t have the highest of hopes for this season of Summer House (is it me, or does the cast seem a little too overexposed?), but I was so disappointed with the premiere. Carl clearly doesn’t want to do this anymore (can we blame him?), the new people are… fine, and Kyle is trying way too hard. The whole premiere to me felt like the coupled-up Vanderpump seasons: all manufactured drama, and a total snooze.

Hopefully the Danielle / Lindsay mess will make things more interesting, but I’m a bit over it. Am I alone?

We all have one or two Bravolebs that we will ride into battle for. Ok, fine that might be extreme. But still. The sentiment stands.

I find myself always defending Melissa Gorga, and Candiace Dillard. I just love them both and think they are both misunderstood and beautiful and pop star queens!

Who is your Bravoleb that you love no matter what?

It's officially been 10 years (10 years!!) since Vanderpump Rules premiered on Bravo. The same year, we got Southern Charm, and just a bit later, Summer House provided us with yet another distraction. But, since then, we haven't seen another next-gen hit make its way to Bravo.

Instead, Bravo has really leaned into cross-over content, recycling its stars, instead of creating new ones. Is there a reason why you think Bravo has yet to really find another post-Summer House hit? And why they aren't leaning into Gen Z more? I always think about when Andy Cohen said they wouldn't do cross-overs until the content got stale, and I worry about what's to come...